On 18/05/08 04:39, Ken wrote:
> TheGoz wrote:
>> Ken writes:
>>
>>> The other thing, the one that makes me feel best, one that makes
>>> it all worth while, is when someone writes me and says, "I
>>> thought I was going crazy until I read your book . . . I thought
>>> I was alone . . . Thank you." To me, that is the ultimate
>>> accomplishment, to positively affect someone's life.
>>
>> Even if you have to negatively affect the lives of possibly
>> thousnds of others in the process...?? That seems like a really
>> hollow "accomplishment" to me...
>>
>> Tom
>
> Tom,
>
> And just whose lives am I negatively affecting?
>
> Are you suggesting that those who wish to play guru should take
> precedence over those that they are trying to mislead?
Coming from Ken Ragge, an ex AA member whose pretensions as a guru there
were outvoted even at group level, who nurtures sufficient resentment to
spend much of his life as a "researcher" but presenting only selected
evidence that either sup****ts his opinions or can be stretched out of
context to mislead others, those two questions deserve a Usenet Acme Of
Irony award of the day, if not the year.
Bob
> Do you think that I should be concerned with those who are those who
> are profiting by the coercion of people into the Step groups rather
> than those who are being coerced?
>
> Do you think I should be concerned with those who use their
> professional position, psychiatrists, psychologists and other
> "helper" authority who use their licensed status and who are assumed
> to be operating on a scientific basic basis rather than their
> two-hatter status to push the Step groups on people rather than help
> people with their problems?
>
> I'm sorry, but when I grew up the heroes were people like Robin Hood
> and Zorro. While it is true they are fictional characters, they are
> far removed from the Donald Trumps and Paris Hiltons of today.
>
> If those with position (Time) and power in the groups or because of
> the groups are uncomfortable, I could care less.
>
> You can sit in your meetings all you want and whenever someone dies
> go "Tisk, tisk. Some much die so others can live" all you want. But
> that is who you are, not me.
>
> Ken Ragge http://www.morerevealed.com/
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